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uav_ip
Let everyone know about your experiences at this show and lets see some pictures.
Rapier01
They shut down the shuttle to the base from Branch Ave Metro before 14:00 as I was arriving... so I only got to see Max's demo from a distance. Still pretty impressive. I'll try to go again tomorrow, but I'm kinda pressed for time.
Steven King
Saturday was great... Some awesome sun in the afternoon.. Unfortunately my battery died right after the blues started and I forgot my backup battery.. Got some good video though smile.gif Will be doing pictures tomorrow rather than video..
patrick1678
Do you guys still think it is worth going tomorrow due to the weather?
Guys please when you post your shots today please please please; tell where you were so I have an idea of the best angles tomorrow.
Thanks!
uav_ip
I was situated on show right, probably right in the middle on the right side. I was close to wear Jill Long performed her preflight this morning.
uav_ip
I may be wrong but I thjnk the performers were centering their routines on the right side of show center. Am I wrong?
Steven Holzinger
To some extent, yes.

I will be out there tomorrow as well... (and I didn't feel like lugging my desktop around, just so you know!) and tomorrow will be the static day for me.
blueangelsfan
The Starfighters were unbelievable. I hope they are around more next year. The F-4 was also great. If the Blue Angels weren't there, this would have still been a tremendous show with the F-22A Demo Team added to the mix. Great talking to fellow ASB members airshowfan01, PhotoFlyGirl, raggz, MaryLou, Liza, JohnL, Ohio airshow fan, Steven King, Steven Holzinger, Demar7277477something7 laugh.gif , vfa-32 Felix11, Mike Sherba, Joe Osciak (sp?)(hell spelling for all laugh.gif ) Rob Reider, Hirshebar22, raptor tm chief, mr rehbaum, forgive me people, fotodj, pawarrant, engine15, and anyone else I missed.
MaryLou
Just got in - it was great seeing everyone - As in Jim's post, way too many to mention - Pictures will wait til tomorrow - or the day after. Marylou
Steven Holzinger
Here are the Starfighters!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zddqLO1H0s
blueangelsfan
Two for tonight, gotta go to bed. Driving back the 2 hours again tomorrow.

God Bless America!

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F-4 Phantom

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MaryLou
Jim, All those hints to park at Branch Avenue gave us a 2 hour delay in getting on a bus to get to Branch Avenue... Guess you parked someplace else.............. Marylou
Crimeguy
As a normally quiet member of the group, I have to vent! This morning all went smooth and quickly at Branch Ave. I was impressed with the setup at Andrews this year as most of the flying acts were parked out of the way, giving you a mostly unobstructed view of the runway.

However, the first thing you will quickly notice is that there were almost NO trash cans and certainly none on the flight line fence. By the end of the day all sorts of trash were against the fence AND BLOWING onto the taxiway.

Getting back to Branch Ave was a disaster to say the least. The show ended by about 4:30 and the lines for the Branch Ave bus streched almost 1/2 the field. We did walk around a while and the line only grew - instead of shrinking.

They FINALLY brought in some reinforcement buses from FEDEX field. However, they got lost on the way. A convoy of buses went for a tour AROUND Andrews only to arrive at the FEDEX side about 25 minutes later.

We pulled into the Branch Ave station just after 7 pm. I'm patient, but that was unacceptable.

All of those factors - coupled with the fact that I was surrounded by some of the rudest people who didn't respect anybody's space - it was a challenging day.

For those brave enough to attend Sunday - here's some tips. If you are at airshow right and get there when the doors open - beware - Look and see if the speakers are up, if they aren't wait until they place them before you get situated. Also, in front of the F-22's they put up a blue canopy that wasn't up first thing.

If your going to go show right, I'd say go up further toward the Blues and a little to the right of the huge speaker. Also, show left filled up VERY quickly!

Progear
QUOTE(MaryLou @ May 17 2008, 09:58 PM) *
Jim, All those hints to park at Branch Avenue gave us a 2 hour delay in getting on a bus to get to Branch Avenue... Guess you parked someplace else.............. Marylou


Now I don't feel as bad about the hour and a half to get a bus back to FedEx tongue.gif

Great show and quite a gathering of ASB'ers. It was great meeting many of the other members. Just got back to Jersey, need a shower, then start going through the 800+ photos taken...hope to have a few up later tonight or tomorrow.

Chris.
MaryLou
hah they put all the buses first on the Fed ex side, I think. what ever caused it - they only had 40 buses for all of us, it was a long wait! My pics will wait too. Anyone going tomorrow, have a blast!

Marylou
Cindy VA
Hi everyone,

Just got home...great to finally meet some of you (Steve, JB, ProGear, Rob Reider, Demar727, Liza, et al (forgive me for not remembering everyone!)). Sorry for abandoning the "pit" at show left, but I scoped out a spot on show right that worked for me. I'll post some video in the near future.

Hope to see you all again soon - perhaps at Langley?? smile.gif Everyone have a safe trip home.

-Cindy
Steven King
QUOTE(MaryLou @ May 17 2008, 09:58 PM) *
Jim, All those hints to park at Branch Avenue gave us a 2 hour delay in getting on a bus to get to Branch Avenue... Guess you parked someplace else.............. Marylou


Well I will be parking Branch Ave tomorrow.. Hopefully the chance of rain will scare the bulk away and make it an easy day smile.gif
davidshere
Unfortunately, I did not/will not attend... I would be quite interested to hear if there was a flight demonstration of the B1-B ... either today or tomorrow.
Tomcatboy48237
QUOTE(davidshere @ May 17 2008, 10:41 PM) *
I would be quite interested to hear if there was a flight demonstration of the B1-B ... either today or tomorrow.


Nope, no B-1Bs anywhere to be seen.

I'll post the rest of my thoughts on the show after letting my brain (and temper after today) cool off a bit.

Ryan
Rob Reider
Sure was nice to see so many ASBers today! We had a few pictures taken and got to speak with folks for a while.

I REALLY enjoyed the show today. Max's Raptor demo was excellent and his tail slide may have been the best of all I've seen. We spoke tonight and he said that he wasn't happy with some of the maneuvers but was very pleased with the tail slide. It all just worked out right for him.

I love the Andrews show but as an announcer it's a tough venue because the air boss is in the tower, about a half-mile away. I have always felt more comfortable with the boss right next to me, with the ability to work out details immediately. Still, working with A1C Christine Sabotta, who had radio communication with the tower, was certainly OK! She did a great job relaying information to and from Wayne Boggs and Sgt. Nate Brewer in the tower.

I feel badly for those who had to wait in line so long for the buses to Fedex Field and the Branch Ave. Metro station. I saw those lines and couldn't believe how long they were. Unfortunately, there's not near enough space to park cars on base - well, there is, but the security of that base is paramount and having tens of thousands of vehicles on that base is unacceptable to those in control. My guess is that the Secret Service pulls the strings.

Even the pilots are advised that they are NOT allowed to overfly the Presidential hangar.

It was really good to finally see the Starfighters! The sound of the three jets flying over the crowd on their first pass was wonderful!

Sean & Eric Tucker performed, Greg Poe, John Klatt, Bill Braak in the Air Force Reserve jet car, the Strike Eagle team, Jill "Raggz" Long, the Red Bull Air Force, Golden Knights, Paul McCowan (who jumped in that 5000 sq ft American flag, the Blues, and everyone else did a great job.

The ABC affiliate just reported that 400,000 people were there!!

Holy cow, that's amazing!

Hope we have a good crowd tomorrow.

Regards,

Rob





QUOTE(Crimeguy @ May 17 2008, 10:04 PM) *
As a normally quiet member of the group, I have to vent! This morning all went smooth and quickly at Branch Ave. I was impressed with the setup at Andrews this year as most of the flying acts were parked out of the way, giving you a mostly unobstructed view of the runway.

However, the first thing you will quickly notice is that there were almost NO trash cans and certainly none on the flight line fence. By the end of the day all sorts of trash were against the fence AND BLOWING onto the taxiway.

Getting back to Branch Ave was a disaster to say the least. The show ended by about 4:30 and the lines for the Branch Ave bus streched almost 1/2 the field. We did walk around a while and the line only grew - instead of shrinking.

They FINALLY brought in some reinforcement buses from FEDEX field. However, they got lost on the way. A convoy of buses went for a tour AROUND Andrews only to arrive at the FEDEX side about 25 minutes later.

We pulled into the Branch Ave station just after 7 pm. I'm patient, but that was unacceptable.

All of those factors - coupled with the fact that I was surrounded by some of the rudest people who didn't respect anybody's space - it was a challenging day.

For those brave enough to attend Sunday - here's some tips. If you are at airshow right and get there when the doors open - beware - Look and see if the speakers are up, if they aren't wait until they place them before you get situated. Also, in front of the F-22's they put up a blue canopy that wasn't up first thing.

If your going to go show right, I'd say go up further toward the Blues and a little to the right of the huge speaker. Also, show left filled up VERY quickly!

Corey121281
QUOTE(uav_ip @ May 17 2008, 03:14 PM) *
Let everyone know about your experiences at this show and lets see some pictures.


Greetings:

This was a great show today, couldn't ask for better weather in my opinion. It's a 3 hour and 20 minute drive from my home in PA but it was well worth it and always is well worth it. Always like coming to this show.

I have to agree with the sentiment about rude people at this show as well as people that couldn't obiviously control their children. Way too many of them piling into the fence and just no respect toward space like someone said. It made watching the show and taking pictures difficult.

Here are some photos I took. These came out pretty good considering I use a point and shoot digital camera. They have been cropped and resized a little for easier loading. Enjoy!

Corey
draven
Was there today. A few things ...

Finally got to see Max's demo. Awesome, to say the least. HOWEVER. I apologize for the straightforwardness but I'm standing there knowing what is coming from last year's demo, and the excitement in the crowd left something to be desired. Why? I believe it's all about describing the demo and giving the crowd a genuine feeling behind it.

I understand that not everybody is a public speaker. And I know that the BA and TB are reknown for the way their routines are described - very assertive voice inflection, etc.

But I just think that the Raptor demo needs to be described in a way that no other demo has ever been because as we know the jet is like none other. There needs to be much more description as to what is going on in the air. Give people a reason to be excited. Tell them that a jet is about to flip about it's axis like you just spun your car 360 degrees on the highway, etc. I just don't know if the crowd understands from the current demo description just what this machine is capable of, both from information given during the demo and the general description of the demo.

Rob, you're great as usual. The whole shirt/coin/surprise thing was great.

As for the buses, well that happens every year pretty much. I guess your best bet is to just go army and get in the base straight up tongue.gif
Greg Germ
Rob, fantastic job on the narrations - many folks near me were intently listening and enjoying the commentary. And this was my first airshow with jumbotrons... interesting to say the least!

The bus lines STUNK. It was *great* getting in - parked at Branch Ave. shortly after 9:00, was on base moments later. Getting out? 1:30 hr wait - and the clock was ticking, as I had to catch my flight home from BWI back to PVD. Who said those guys knew what they were doing with the busses! smile.gif Alas, perhaps my expectations were set a might bit too high... (*but not one hour and thirty minutes too high)

The show itself was a good one! Great lineup. As many mentioned, the sun was very harsh in the morning. I've got lots of bad pictures - most of which are mainly due to this being my first show of the season and I am rusty.

I had never seen the Starfighters, and I enjoyed them!

Max's demo looked great to me... Many people near me were in AWE of that aircraft. We had the AV8B Harrier, Sean Tucker's Harrier, and the Raptor Slide... lots of still airplane today!

As far as pictures are concerned, I took too many. Now I have to trim down from 600 or so. Here are some quick hitters that jumped out at me...


Mmm, Sean...
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Dusty sensor + Ripples...
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Ready-break!
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My 5:00 AM alarm clock is now catching up with me, so I hope that all going tomorrow have good weather and a great time!
rbird7282
QUOTE(MaryLou @ May 17 2008, 08:58 PM) *
Jim, All those hints to park at Branch Avenue gave us a 2 hour delay in getting on a bus to get to Branch Avenue... Guess you parked someplace else.............. Marylou

I also parked at the Branch Ave. Station this morning. Getting there was no problem, but leaving took about 1 1/2 hours. There was a lady in the next line over from me waiting for a bus, complaining to one of the people loading buses, that one line was moving faster that the other. Instead, maybe thank them for their service, or stay home. (Sorry for that mini-rant) However, that still beats my Fed Ex experience two years ago when it took me 2 1/2 hours just to get back to my car at Fed Ex field. That was the year that I vowed to never park there again. I had a friend who works for DOD that I went with on Friday last year and we were supposed to go together today so we could park on base, but he had to go overseas for a week. sad.gif Maybe next year. I read about where my fellow ASBer's were going to set up, but I never found anyone. Where was everybody set up? I spent most of the day right near the Raptor Simulator/Game for kids (left of show center) Anyway, I hope everybody had a great day. rolleyes.gif By the way, THE STARFIGHTERS ROCK!
Also, many thanks to Mr. Rob Reider for another outstanding job. rolleyes.gif
osciak
Nice weather,airshow and getting to meet everyone again. Jim you came close with Osciak, but not too many people with a name like that. Here are a couple of mine with more to come tomorrow.
Joe O.
Corey121281
A couple of more of my shots before I go to bed.

Glad everyone seemed to enjoy the show!

Corey
blueangelsfan
That announcer guy

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Interviewing Chuck Long, Raggz hubby


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Someone looks like she just had waaaaaay too much fun biggrin.gif

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Strike Eagle

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blueangelsfan
Enough for now, time to get ready to go back on the road again. See everyone down there.
Rob Reider
Thanks to all for your kind words. I simply love my job!

Rob

BAFAN - thanks for the pics. Good to see you.

R
PhotoFlyGirl
Hey everyone! The show was great on Saturday. It was so amazing to see this mix of aircraft together at one show, it just gave me goose bumps. I can't promise any photo postings today, but will try to get something on as soon as I can when I get home. It was also great to see all the ASBers that I saw yesterday...most of which I hadn't seen since GML. Everyone please be safe on the way home and hope to see you again this season.

Brenda.
Mike Sherba
This show normally draws about 400,000 to 500,000 spectators over three days. On Saturday it drew OVER 400,000 in a single day. Yes the lines were longer than normal, but what could they have done? Twice as many people as usual showed up.
Cindy VA
Speaking of "buzz"....

F-15E Dedication Pass

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Cindy VA
Here are a couple of photos



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osciak
A couple more from Saturday. Joe O.
spookyboss
Did anyone get pic's of Spooky the AC-47 ?
osciak
Here you go Spookyboss. Joe O
Clubber
Joe - GREAT photo of the 104's in your last post - that looks awesome!
WEnnesser
Well, Just got back from the Airshow today nice and early thanks to the rain. Got some pics and a few minutes of video but not much since the weather was bad. Hopefully someone has some great videos from Saturday since I missed out on Saturday. Also is it just me or was there a lot less static displays this year. It seems like last year I could have spent a whole day looking at satics and this year my family was able to get on all the planes and see the other satics in no time at all? Anyway, Can't wait till next year's show already. Also once again I thought Andrews did a great job with the Branch Ave Metro and getting people in and out quickly.
Cindy VA
QUOTE(ACFD698 @ May 18 2008, 02:23 PM) *
Well, Just got back from the Airshow today nice and early thanks to the rain. Got some pics and a few minutes of video but not much since the weather was bad. Hopefully someone has some great videos from Saturday since I missed out on Saturday. Also is it just me or was there a lot less static displays this year. It seems like last year I could have spent a whole day looking at satics and this year my family was able to get on all the planes and see the other satics in no time at all? Anyway, Can't wait till next year's show already. Also once again I thought Andrews did a great job with the Branch Ave Metro and getting people in and out quickly.


There did seem to be a few less static displays. Notably, the B-1 bomber was not there, neither was there an F-22 static, nor an F-117 static. Your ease of exploring the static displays and efficient shuttle service could also be because most of the general public appears to have attended on Saturday. Perhaps Metro had more buses running, too. A previous post here from Rob noted that nearly 400,000 people were there on Saturday, which is the normal amount for BOTH days combined. Sorry to hear that today was cut short. I just posted my video of the B-2 Passes yesterday.

-Cindy
Greg Germ
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On Saturday it drew OVER 400,000 in a single day. Yes the lines were longer than normal, but what could they have done?


Very true, Mike - pre-show attendance estimates are just that - estimates! If the community is enthusiastic and shows up in DROVES, as apparently happened yesterday, there is only so much they can do. But as one who was standing in the lines (*like most, if not all of you other attendees) it is hard to "understand" the circumstances surrounding the delays when you're shuffling forward, one crack in the tarmac at a time.

<Sunday morning quarterbacking>

I actually had a pretty big problem with the general crowd control on the Branch Ave. lines. The let the 2 primary lines grow to 6 or 7 "cattle herd" lines at the pickup point, but had nobody directing that flow. It turned into a free-for-all when the security teams started allowing people to fill in those lines. Those one or two primary lines should have remained until the end, OR should have had controlled distribution into the bus feeder lines. You should never trust a herd of people to behave nicely when they've been standing in line for hour(s).

</end Sunday morning quarterbacking>

On a better note - nice pics, Mike!

And in an effort to redeem my ranting, I give you Dale Freaking' Snodgrass...

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-Greg
mikelynaugh
Hey guys,

My wife and I had an amazing time....the weather couldn't have been better (although it sure is tough to shoot early morning there!) but the light was perfect during the afternoon. We had no problems getting to the base, we got to Branch Ave at 8:30am and we were at the show by 9am. Rob did an amazing job, Max was incredible....it just really was a great day. I posted 171 of my photos from the show on my site, www.mikelynaugh.com/Airshows

But here are a few samples...I had a blast!

Starfighters





I don't want my posts to be too big, so I will do it in a couple of posts.....I hope you like my shots!

Mike
mikelynaugh
Here are some misc shots:











Mike
hotreds
Good job, Mike!
mikelynaugh
The Blue Angels









Mike
mikelynaugh
And here are some special ones I thought you guys would really enjoy! Amazing job Max!











Mike
mikelynaugh
QUOTE(hotreds @ May 18 2008, 02:54 PM) *
Good job, Mike!


Thanks hotreds!

WEnnesser
Here are some of my pics off my Camcorder from today.








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Cindy VA
Great pics, Mike!!
MaryLou
Thanks for posting all the pics folks. As mine are pretty much as BlueAngelsFan's I'll have to take a reallllll close look before I post any. As for the shuttle service, I can understand being a lag due to the number of folks in attendance yesterday. But remember, those buses brought us all in through out the morning, and we did all kind of leave at the same time. My deep thought is that somehow during the day, more buses could have been called for, so that the chaos that happened didn't. Last year I think we got out a bit faster, but there was still a line to get out. I don't think having us all on the base would have solved anything - we would have still been getting out at 9 last night.

On a lighter note, we can look forward to next year's show now!

Rob, it was great seeing you, sorry I couldn't have talked with you longer, but you were busy setting up and that was the important thing at the time. Catch up with you later!

JB, Steve H, Andrew, gees, I couldn't find you in the crowd - Catch up with you at McGuire!
Marylou
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